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From: DogFace
Sent: 17 October 2008 14:32
To: Daydream Believer
Subject: RE: A rare bit of decent analysis in the press
From: DogFace
Sent: 17 October 2008 14:32
To: Daydream Believer
Subject: RE: A rare bit of decent analysis in the press
As I said – I don't know what the deal is with Kroneke... and I don't know the template for this season - but I'll be watching very closely and try to second guess it. Arsenal have never ventured into the murkier depths of the game (which is a constant thorn in the bookies side) and I would hate for this season to be the one in which we do.
One thing is for sure though (with regards to intensity and an effort to generate it), to maximise revenue the title race will have to go 'right to the wire'… again. And once again it'll be the 'power teams' that will be in the mix...
...It's up for grabs now!
Hey, on that note wouldn't it be great if it were Liverpool and Arsenal neck and neck for the title... shades of 89? And us with out new away kit - how spectacular!
If that happens I will have to accept that we have, without a doubt, become 100% dodgy.
:-\
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From: Daydream Believer
Sent: 17 October 2008 14:11
To: DogFace
Subject: RE: A rare bit of decent analysis in the press
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From: Daydream Believer
Sent: 17 October 2008 14:11
To: DogFace
Subject: RE: A rare bit of decent analysis in the press
Does Kroenke have history?
But surely Wenger would spot it a mile away and never allow it.
If all of this is true which I can easily believe it is it takes a lot of the intensity out of the competition for me.
But surely Wenger would spot it a mile away and never allow it.
If all of this is true which I can easily believe it is it takes a lot of the intensity out of the competition for me.
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From: DogFace
Sent: 17 October 2008 12:57
To: Daydream Believer
Subject: RE: A rare bit of decent analysis in the press
From: DogFace
Sent: 17 October 2008 12:57
To: Daydream Believer
Subject: RE: A rare bit of decent analysis in the press
Remember, Man-u have a game in hand... so it's not out of the question – I think Everton have a GD of -4… and as we are an attacking team it stands up that we should get a few (baring creative use of the whistle and the offside flag). Good point about Chelsea – as I said, it's worth a lay bet on them. The corruptions in the Chelsea and Man-u games are also magnified by the fact that they are on SKY and there will be much more liquidity on the match – so an 'out of character' result would suit even more.
If you want to understand the corruption in football you have to understand gambling as the two have become intrinsically linked – I'm not really a gambler but I have got into it by trying to second guess the corruption. I originally got interested in the corruption when it became very obvious that Arsenal were being targeted by the Refs for not 'playing the game' as it were… although now Kroenke is on board I don't know where we stand on this?
Unfortunately football is fast becoming like horseracing i.e. purely a gambling sport that everyone will gradually come to accept as being fundamentally corrupt.
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From: Daydream Believer
Sent: 17 October 2008 12:28
To: DogFace
Subject: RE: A rare bit of decent analysis in the press
I find it hard to conceive ManU not winning at home to West Brom especially as they are playing catch up at the moment.
Chels I can see drawing as they have 3/4 of their defence out and it would appear legit.
We might draw at home to Everton but only cos we are a bit crap at the moment but really we should win that despite any ref interference.
Liverpool minus Torres should still be a home win.
I am not a betting man as I don't really understand it and it pains me too much win or lose but am very interested in your analysis and the very real possibility that there is a lot of tampering going on behind the scenes.
From: Daydream Believer
Sent: 17 October 2008 12:28
To: DogFace
Subject: RE: A rare bit of decent analysis in the press
I find it hard to conceive ManU not winning at home to West Brom especially as they are playing catch up at the moment.
Chels I can see drawing as they have 3/4 of their defence out and it would appear legit.
We might draw at home to Everton but only cos we are a bit crap at the moment but really we should win that despite any ref interference.
Liverpool minus Torres should still be a home win.
I am not a betting man as I don't really understand it and it pains me too much win or lose but am very interested in your analysis and the very real possibility that there is a lot of tampering going on behind the scenes.
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From: DogFace
Sent: 17 Oct 2008 12:12
To: Daydream Believer
Subject: RE: A rare bit of decent analysis in the press
Well it would have to literally be a 'whistle blower' for anyone to take notice i.e. a referee.
I don't know much about the attacks on the world trade centre and the pentagon – there's far too much noise... but I admit it was suspicious that there was more effort put into spinning the political fallout than there was in any actual investigation into the facts... the event somehow mutated into demonising Muslims, blaming Iraq and attacking the 'axis of evil' (which was clearly about supporting the oil economy of which the Bush/Bin Laden families are heavily involved in) – the various conspiracy theories out there are almost a distraction from this.
Anyway – back to football... Saturday represents an interesting opportunity as the big 4 are playing:
Middlesbrough v Chelsea, 12:45Arsenal v Everton, 15:00
Aston Villa v Portsmouth, 15:00
Bolton v Blackburn, 15:00
Fulham v Sunderland, 15:00
Liverpool v Wigan, 15:00Man Utd v West Brom, 17:30
Which one of the 'Big 4' do you reckon will 'not win' and scupper the 4-way multiple? If, like last season and the season before it, the knives are out for Arsenal then watch the ref closely as he'll be out to rob us – otherwise Chelsea or Man-U could throw it and play for the draw... this would be easier for Chelsea as they are playing away. Unless the ref gets involved, I can't see Liverpool giving up points for anyone as they seem to be focusing on the EPL this season... and especially at home to Wigan.
So, my advice is – a small lay on Chelsea and if Chelsea don't win then let it ride on the 3-way multiple – otherwise wait until 17:30 and if Liverpool and Arsenal win then lay Man-u with a small side bet on correct score (1-1 or 0-0)!
The EPL is much harder to predict as there are so many more influences than the international matches... unless you have inside info (which I don't) it's a very complex equation... so I could be wrong – I often am!
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From: Daydream Believer
Sent: 17 October 2008 11:12
To: DogFace
Subject: RE: A rare bit of decent analysis in the press
From: Daydream Believer
Sent: 17 October 2008 11:12
To: DogFace
Subject: RE: A rare bit of decent analysis in the press
I'm surprised that there isn't a body of people with no axe to grind who aren't making a big noise about this.
I am a fully signed up conspiracy theorist, don't get me started on 911 but as a case in point there is a huge amount of info on the web about how it was an inside job whether you agree or not.
Maybe it's just a question of time.
They are taking a huge risk. It would only take one whistle blower to expose the whole deal.
I am a fully signed up conspiracy theorist, don't get me started on 911 but as a case in point there is a huge amount of info on the web about how it was an inside job whether you agree or not.
Maybe it's just a question of time.
They are taking a huge risk. It would only take one whistle blower to expose the whole deal.
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From: DogFace
Sent: 17 October 2008 10:54
To: Daydream Believer
Subject: RE: A rare bit of decent analysis in the press
From: DogFace
Sent: 17 October 2008 10:54
To: Daydream Believer
Subject: RE: A rare bit of decent analysis in the press
You wouldn't believe me if I told you how deep the denial/misinformation in the media goes... it's bordering on 'conspiracy theory'.
Certain sports journalists and pundits know what is plain for everyone to see – although nobody can say as it is equally obvious that it would be a 'career suicide' route of enquiry – so they tow the line and try to slip in relevant info under the radar in the hope that people will put 2 and 2 together. Other journalists/pundits/tipsters/talking heads are heavily linked with the bookmaking industry and absolutely know which side their bread is buttered – they play the role of apologist write what they are supposed to write and make a nice little earner on the side. Other journalists are just in denial and write misleading myopic rubbish which is then picked up on by the editors/producers and printed as 'what the public wants to hear'... bear in mind that the popular sports media in general has very close ties with the bookmaking industry – read any paper or watch any match and you will be bombarded with invitations to gamble – which is usually mixed in with misleading advice.
You are correct though - it's getting so bad that it's like the story of the 'Emperor's new clothes' – it's just going to take one respected person to point out the bleedin' obvious for everyone else to take notice!
Until then... gamble wisely.
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From: Daydream Believer
Sent: 17 October 2008 10:34
To: DogFace
Subject: RE: A rare bit of decent analysis in the press
From: Daydream Believer
Sent: 17 October 2008 10:34
To: DogFace
Subject: RE: A rare bit of decent analysis in the press
Well played Sir!
There was piece in one of the papers this morn called "A tale of two halves" which showed the stats first half / second half.
They will get found out if they carry on like this.
There was piece in one of the papers this morn called "A tale of two halves" which showed the stats first half / second half.
They will get found out if they carry on like this.
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From: DogFace
Sent: 17 Oct 2008 10:25
To: Daydream Believer
Subject: RE: A rare bit of decent analysis in the press
So... I hope you made as much money as I did on the game on Wednesday!
As Hleb was not playing; my bets were (assuming that certain players are 'creative' in their earning potential):
HT/FT Draw/England £5 @ 4.3 = return £21.50
Correct score = 1-2 £2 @ 10 = loss £2
Correct score = 1-3 £5 @ 15 = return £75
Correct score = 1-2 £2 @ 10 = loss £2
Correct score = 1-3 £5 @ 15 = return £75
:-D
In-ger-land In-ger-land In-ger-land!
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